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		<title>Monday October 19 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topic: Atheist Ad Campaigns
Positive or Negative?
Based on area, they can be either.
•    $25,000 (donation) spent on subway campaign in NYC
•    Campaign in Indiana – Similar message
How might that money be better spent?
•    Youth programs
•    Education
What do these achieve?
•    In a major metropolitan area, these may not serve much purpose other than awareness.
•    In smaller areas, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topic: Atheist Ad Campaigns<br />
Positive or Negative?<br />
Based on area, they can be either.<br />
•    $25,000 (donation) spent on subway campaign in NYC<br />
•    Campaign in Indiana – Similar message<br />
How might that money be better spent?<br />
•    Youth programs<br />
•    Education<br />
What do these achieve?<br />
•    In a major metropolitan area, these may not serve much purpose other than awareness.<br />
•    In smaller areas, these may bring people out of the woodwork.<br />
•    Is it worth the cost to bring these people out into the open?  A small minority is still a sizable group – can assist in political means, social activism, etc.<br />
•    In the US, where religion almost seems inherent, it can help to raise awareness of our existence and our political weight.<br />
•    Do these campaigns help to enhance the sense of group identity?</p>
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		<title>Monday September 21 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alicia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topic: Intellectual Property Rights
Example: “Happy Birthday”
o	Written by a school teacher in 1800s
o	Now rights are owned by Time Warner until 2020
Should ideas become property?  What might be the motivations?
o	Jealousy, greed
o	Profit
o	Societal benefit
o	Distribution
Is creating a work of art purely for profit something that can be considered manipulative?
o	In this case, should they be given the right to intellectual [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topic: Intellectual Property Rights</p>
<p>Example: “Happy Birthday”<br />
o	Written by a school teacher in 1800s<br />
o	Now rights are owned by Time Warner until 2020<br />
Should ideas become property?  What might be the motivations?<br />
o	Jealousy, greed<br />
o	Profit<br />
o	Societal benefit<br />
o	Distribution<br />
Is creating a work of art purely for profit something that can be considered manipulative?<br />
o	In this case, should they be given the right to intellectual property for so long if its being created for profit as these creations tend to be?<br />
Copyrighting – When created, a copyright is automatically associated with the creative work.</p>
<p>Patenting<br />
o	Patents expire much sooner than intellectual property rights<br />
o	Human genome has been widely patented<br />
o	Drugs that can impact survival are patented – generics must wait until patent has expired to provide for much less money<br />
Should organisms be patented?<br />
o	Drugs – penicillin is a common, useful organism<br />
o	Is right over that life automatically bad?  Ex: organism used to break down crude oil has been patented.<br />
What about differences in country laws?<br />
o	Child pornography – viewable in one country, but not another? In Soviet Russia CP watches you.<br />
o	Should an international standard be reached to prevent such discrepancies?</p>
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